When I was a JW kid, whose parents were too poor to by me a bike, I used to look at that picture of the kid and the bike falling into the crevice and I would think why did the bike have to be destroyed too? Couldn't Jehovah have spared it for good little JW kids like me who didn't have a bike to use in the Paradise? Mercenary little shit wasn't I?
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WT Article that talks about babies being killed at armageddon....
by Tuesday inhey folks, does anyone know which wt article talks about how babies will be killed as in the ones that were killed at sodom and gomorrah and the flood?.
i'm drawing a blank completely what article it was in.. thanks in advance everyone!.
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What's Your Biggest Issue In Life?
by minimus inmy health is good but i do worry about how the economy affects my income.
you just never know if $$$ comes in or if business is slow.. what's your biggest worry in your life?.
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I notice a theme here. Most are saying they are worried about money and health. I bet if you asked this question of non ex-JW's they would answer exactly the same thing. Humans are pretty much the same and worry about the same thing everywhere.
Oh, and I'm worried about money and my health holding out long enough to earn enough money for my retirement. Oh and I also want my health to hold out because I'm allergic to pain and suffering.
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WT Article that talks about babies being killed at armageddon....
by Tuesday inhey folks, does anyone know which wt article talks about how babies will be killed as in the ones that were killed at sodom and gomorrah and the flood?.
i'm drawing a blank completely what article it was in.. thanks in advance everyone!.
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To be fair, the Bible does say God destroyed all the children and babies in his other mass destructions (flood, sodom and gomorrah, etc)
So, it's not really JW's who made this up, because their minds are so sick. It's been taught for thousands of years in the Bible. The writers of the Bible are the sick minds who made it up.
How sick were they? Or were they also just products of their culture? In the wars of the times, women and children were often killed. Children are often killed in war in this century. Vietnam. Africa, right now today. South America. Humans have been murdering each other, including women and children since they began on this earth. For real. Not just in wishful, made up story kind of way either.
JW's are no "sicker" than anyone else.
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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America
by flipper inin the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.
from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.
i love em' all.
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What is considered respectful behaviour differs from culture to culture. I think that is the root of a lot of the problem. How much racism is due to people viewing other people's customs as harmful and/or disrespectful when they don't view it that way and perhaps they view some of our customs as disrespectful when see nothing so about them?
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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America
by flipper inin the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.
from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.
i love em' all.
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I did read it and I was not doubting your motives, it's just that motives can't usually be discerned in email or discussion forums for those of us not psychic. One usually takes the words at face value.
That is a good article Sammie. It basically confirms that there are so many permutations available in the superficial human characteristics that any attempt to caterorgize them into "races" is meaningless. One could come up with 7 billion races if one wanted to do, (perhaps excluding identical twins). I've seen pictures of identical twins who looked identical when young, and very different when 60. They spent their adult life in different climates, with different lifestyle habits. It just goes to show you how much environment and choices can also have an affect on something as superficial as physical features.
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Hello - I´m new here
by Starfish injust wanted to introduce myself.... .
i am a secret fader but since reading this forum i feel i am alot more confident about telling my family/friends that i don t go to the meetings and inactive.. my hubby is also a fader with me...we kind of drifted after my first baby was born.
she is now 11.. it all started with my mom who started studying with my cousin when i was about 15. while she was studying i also started studying (i was about 16).
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Welcome Starfish,
What really upsets me about disfellowshipping someone for smokingis this: The reason there is a rule about smoking is because it's bad for one's health. We care about people and don't want them to harm their health. Fair enough.
However, the WTBTS just doesn't see how much more harmful disfellowshipping someone is to their psychological, and hence their physiological, self. The two are inexorably intertwined. When you cause someone the severe psychological and physical harm of disfellowshipping, it is so much more harmful to their mind, body and spirit than a few cigarettes could ever be. How much more loving it would be to show compassion for their struggle with a very strong habit.
People have killed themselves over the harshness of disfellowshipping. How is that any better than the long term risk of smoking?
True story: A long time poster on this board, who was very well known, and was once a bethel elder, said that he once pulled the body of a man out of a river who had killed himself because he was disfellowshipped for smoking. You can read about it here, Starfish, it is a JWD classic.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/28410/1/Who-Pays-The-Ferryman
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Say " Hello " to the Least Racist Person in America
by flipper inin the spirit of keeping all our race relations positive- thought i'd start this thread.
from the time i was born i've been around people of all walks of life in america.
i love em' all.
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Mr. Flipper: It's "mighty white" of you to love all the races, but by dividing them into "the races", even if only in your own mind to be all inclusive, aren't you in fact, by definition, differentiating them?
I don't doubt you are genuinely without malice toward others, however, by still acknowledging "the races" when geneticists have definitively proven there is no distinguishing genes or features that mark humans as being of one race or another, then you are very subtly perpetuating the myth of "race".
I believe that's what is earning you some flack in the responses.
And still, in spite of repeated requests, not one person has been able to provide me with a logical definition and division of the races, in spite of my sincere requests for enlightenment?
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Have BP been plugging the wrong hole? Additionally a note to Americans about Al Megrahi
by slimboyfat ini saw this video a while ago ago.
simmons says he reckons the pictures bp have been broadcasting and the hole they have plugged in the last few days is not the source of the oil leak at all.
if the oil is indeed leaking somewhere else it may make the situation much more serious.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdgaou1h2gm.
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Has BP been plugging the wrong hole?
Well, they are British aren't they.
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Appears to be another case of "shifting the burden."
by garyneal inmy wife and i was talking about one of the talks that they had concerning marriage and how each spouse is suppose to put the other spouse first and that as long as both spouses did this, it would work out for the greater good of the marriage.. i agreed but added a point in that sometimes, either because of human frailties on the part of your spouse or some other reason, you spouse may not be fulfilling all your needs and sometimes you will just need to take care of your own needs.
i tried to emphasize that this did not mean placing your needs ahead of the marriage or family or even your spouses, but simply sometimes we need to take care of our own needs and not always expect the spouse to do it for us.. she did not like the 'tone' and 'attitude' of my remark and when i brought up an example, it really set her off.. the example had to do with birthdays.
since my wife is a witness, obviously she will not be throwing me a party, at least don't expect her too.
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St Ann nailed it. It's unrealistic to expect another person to meet all your needs. Mature grown-ups learn to meet most of their own physical and emotional needs themselves. One thing you do need your partner to help you with is your sexual needs and your needs for companionship.
ps: All of my family are JW's so when I wanted to celebrate my first birthday, I took myself out for dinner and bought myself a nice present. I invited my son along and paid for him too. Felt good to share that with him and it was to teach him that he could do the same for himself.
Garyneal, your wife is just afraid of anything changing in her life and between you and she is trying to shame and bully you into doing things her way so she doesn't have to feel afraid anymore. It kind of worked too, because you ended up apologizing to her. IMO that was a mistake because it just validated her bad behaviour. Of course, there is no law that you cannot take back your apology. Don't give too much weight to what your daughter said either. Kids cannot always see the complex issues and undercurrents to conflict. They see black and white. You can tell your daughter, "I did not upset mommy. Mommy's beliefs about the badness of birthdays is upsetting her. Billions of people all over the world celebrate their birthdays without getting upset."
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Found something kinda freaky on Google
by StAnn ini don't know why but, for some reason, tonight i decided to google someone i used to date (seriously but briefly) back in the 1990's.
i put in his name and up came~you guessed it~his obituary.
he's been dead for over nine years!
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I remember when I heard about the first member of our social group dying. Someone I had flirted with and wanted to date 20 years ago, but bad timing. He was only 40. Heart attack.